road to oboyan

[op]

Hi Zit, I´m probably a most stupid "Kursk" player, but I´ve finished (unsuccessfully) sixth attempt. As you reccomended before, I´d cleaned both northern crossroads and... - nothing (nor failed). So I´d tried to send my "Russians" to the village. I cleaned them the way again, occupated all the houses around the bridge and objective arrow still merry hangs over the warehouse, where these soldiers changed the uniforms. You are absolutely right, Kursk is fantanstic upgrade, but this one is horrible and I don´t understand why it must be a part of the game. Even when I´m able to occupy the bridge intact!
Have you got some idea what to do, or I´ve to kick it out of the window?

[Adrian Taylor]

I think this objective requires a certain number of prisoners to be converted. This maybe the reason the objective arrow does not clear.


Adrian Taylor
ACTive Gaming

[op]

;)Hi, it should be! I did it with two groups. Generally, I mean there must be some bug. Look, I did everything, as written higher. Last time (7th attempt) I tried to kill all the russians in the village as well as in the tractor factory. It´s written in the objective description to clean up the camp and repair the tent, when no POWs are captured, I did it and result was the same. I occupied the house with russian sappers, I let shifted soldiers their fate and fought for crossroads, I captured intact bridges (both) and wooden constructed - but this "Coup de main" objective still hangs over this dressroom (sorry - warehouse). I´m afraid my command fail not in Prokhorovka as in 1943 but all the army and SS attack groups are stopped at warehouse with russian uniforms. It´s more powerful then all panzerdivisionen. Hi gents, I´m going to prepare myself for martial court!

[BBFred]

If you still have the objective arrow pointing on the warehouse it probably means you didn't lead all your prisoner squads inside it. Look for possible rogue Russian prisoners on the map and get them inside the warehouse too.

[zitadelle]

But BBFred, it would help to give us some information why it’s possible that sometimes you receive objective failed when you go north and ignore the prisoner objective and sometimes not. And additional i don’t remember that I was told to bring all Germans in Russian uniforms into the warehouse. The amount of Uniforms results from the amount of prisoner you took but it can vary or not?

As far as I know it should be possible to fail this objective also when all Germans in Russian Uniforms are killed on their way to the warehouse. Perhaps try this.

Greets Zit

[BBFred]

Actually it just follows logic. You will fail the objective if you drive any German forces other than the infiltration squads within sight of the Verkhopene (that's the main town with the 2 bridges north-west) defenders, or also if all the infiltration squads get killed one way or another.

As for turning the prisoner squads into infiltration squads, the point is to make as many of them as you can. Once you have all your squads converted, whatever the initial number, and to the limit of 5, then the 'warehouse' objective is completed.

[op]

Hi BB Fred, I´m not sure you understand me well. There are two objectives in relation to warehouse. First - to bring russian POWs inside for interrogation. It´s simple, should be completed without any problem. Second - which appears after a few seconds, is so called Coup de Main objective. There´s written in objective description very roughly to occupy the southern bridge only. Nothing about sappers house or so. OK, nevermind. But there must be some solution how to finish (successfully or not) this objective, when there´s no bug in the game. "Zi" and other players descripted how they did it. I´d tried the same, but nothing. Similar situation should happen with Tractor factory. When I played it for a first time, I repelled the attack of T 34s with infantry and nothing. Objective is finished after second Matilda destruction, but - Matildas decided to pass my defence invisible, they changed their way out of range of defending tanks visibility. BB Fred, please, send me some map or manual how to finish this horrible Coup de Main objective, when it must be so necessary in the game.

[zitadelle]

I am confused now op, because if you did as i wrote you should have failed the warehouse objective and then normally there shouldn¡¦t be the next objective what you called Coup de Main objective. At the tractor factory the goal was to conquer it and to defend it from the heavy counter attack. But you know that there are two attacks in the middle they also attack you there so take care. I never had reported problems at the tractor factory other than to stand the heavy counter attack ƒº

[op]

Don´t be confused, my real problem was with Coup de Main, the second warehouse objective. I failed not the first warehouse objective, but the second - to send my troops dressed in russians unifoms to capture a bridge. I began northern campaign now and I hope I´ll be more successful then in the south. When I finish it, I´ll try it again. A lot of thanks for help attempt. Greetings from Czech Republic, OP to Zi.

[BBFred]

Ok, that clears things up a bit now.

In order to succeed in the coup de main you need to be careful about the following parameters:

- No German unit other than the infiltration squads must come within visual range of the town, or the alarm will be raised.

- Your infiltration squads must stay in column (or march) formation once within visual range of the town so they don't raise suspicion among the defenders, and must not engage any Russian in the town prior to reaching the building where the Russian sappers are entrenched.

- It's best to pick a route away from sight from the Russian defenders on the far bank because those can raise the alarm too.

Worse come to worse, failing that objective isn't critical in any way to successfully finish the mission. You can always rebuild a bridge or construct a pontoon once you wiped out the Russians on the eastern bank.

[op]

Hi, BB Fred, I´ve finished the northern campaign right now, it was great deal! I´ll try southern again, so thank you for instructions, then we´ll see. When I played it first, my problem was it had no solution, it remains still over the warehouse. There were no failure, when this objective was not finished, or they were killed or so. As I wrote, then we´ll see again. Thanks, I´ll write you about the result. OP.